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This is in response to a comment left at the bottom of the previous post.

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That last post of mine was pretty cheeky. I don’t think I wanted to critique Zak Smith’s work as much as I wanted to critique the Chelsea/Grad School scene that puts so much machinery behind young artists. It is like collectors want to buy the work that reminds them of their children. The effects are not devastating to art – you can’t kill that. The effects are devastating for individual artists. Zak Smith is already a brand name – his future potential limited by this fact. Those gallery lights are pretty bright and won’t mind burning him and several hundred other kids to a crisp.

Of course I know what you are saying, but everyone has different tastes. Many of the people working out here are doing so in their own field of inquiry.

I always have mixed feelings about my own work. Usually I feel like I’m chasing down something really important - doing something that few others would be willing to. But, when my work is shown very few people are capable of reacting to it. I don’t think that my work is of low quality (although a lack of craft is part of its demands); I just think that it’s not for everyone. In fact, it’s for very few people.

There is a romantic idea that someone really can express themselves in their artwork. Well, I’ve found that this is true, but it’s not as simple as it first sounds. Since I’ve been in the city I’ve met only a few artworks - by a certain few people- that I’ve truly been interested in. These works don’t express a lot in the romantic sense. They aren’t containers for immense amounts of pain and anguish. They aren’t happy, radiant, or bubbling over with human dignity. They don’t express much in the plain-speak sense of the word express. What these works do is communicate that their makers and I are thinking similar thoughts. I live for these moments. I like to believe that what is being said in these artworks is something that would not be as well communicated in words. I also believe that what is being said could not have been achieved if the artist hadn’t physically worked with material from the world.

It is strange that so much artwork is made, but that I’m only able to find the things I care about in a small percentage of it. It’s like I’m blind to much so that I can have a deeper experience in just one area. At 19 I did not know that it would be harder and harder to like others’ work. At 27 art journeys are already starting to seem bittersweet.

Thanks for the comment,

Roy

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At 11:56 AM, mark said...

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I am usually very hesitant to critisize other young artists too harshly. Being one myself, I realise what it is to spend a lot of energy and time making art and then put it out there for others to interpret. Interpreting visual art is, despite what is taught in art schools, is actually about taste. People have preferences. I didn't mean to write badly about the show that you posted about (I would never directly critique work that I have not seen in person). I guess I was referring more to the general tendency that seems to exist in a art centre like NYC. Perhaps it is more a matter of feeling let down as when I go to NYC and walk from gallery to gallery I really want to see a great work of art. At the same time, I admit that I only view a portion of art that is on show in NYC when I visit. I think when you refer to the Chelsea/ Grad School machinery you are on to something. I would venture to add that the art market machinery adds to this limited view of art work. Then again, there needs to be some determining factor to what is shown and is not. Here in Canada the art market machine is not as big, maybe this is a good thing, or maybe I am just jealous of the possibilities for young artists to show their work down there.

Great blog, and thanks for your post.

Cheers,

Mark

 
At 4:04 AM, Zak Smith said...

Hi.
(first, let me say I’m a bit confused about who wrote what here, so I’m posting this in a few different places)
It’s Zak Smith.
I’m not really surprised or disappointed that there’s some minimalist who doesn’t like my paintings.
I do, however, wonder about this “burned to a crisp” comment. I make what I want and my gallery is a pretty decent and supportive one and if I say I want to make a bunch of abstract paintings or illustrations for a 760-page novel nobody’s read then they don’t mind.
I don’t really think it’s fair to assume that just because someone is making art that doesn’t appeal to your sensibilities that somehow it’s because the artist is being manipulated by The System.
If this isn’t what you meant to imply then I’m sorry.

 
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I'm sorry zack, but you are so into the image of yourself that you have forgotten some other stuff. It reminds me of teenagers taking endless pictures of themselves. Self absorption. I guess that isn't a criminal motivation for art, but I wish for more. The photo of yourself on your website pretty much sums it up.
I doubt you are being mistreated by the system. No. I think you fit in just fine.

 
At 2:55 AM, Zak Smith said...

Hey Anonymous!
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It's always nice to hear from you since, y'know, we never know what you've been doing all day until you decide to pop your head out and drop some comment.
Anyway, keep doing whatever it is you're doing, I'm sure it's very deep and fulfilling.

 
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No, Anonymous, that would not be interesting, that would be doing an Andy Warhol.

What I want is to do what I love--make pictures--and make at least 28k every year doing it so that I can afford to make lots of them and not have to go back to my day job. So far so good.

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This is about an extremely disturbing trend in cultural discussion and art criticism in general.

Namely, confusing an aesthetic difference with a philosophical one. I made some art for a show--the show consisted of:
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-5 large abstract paintings (well one was a collage and one a print)
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-13 8x10 inch drawings of various subjects, personal, political, and abstract, one of which is a self-portrait.

All of the above were done in a style that one might call maximalist--bright colors, cluttered compositions, with careful draughtsmanship and paint handling and constant attempts at visual innovation.

Based on this information, and, apparently, the photograph of me the publishers wanted for the back of my book, you've decided that what I crave most in the world is "recognition" and to be made an "icon".

Now I'm not saying this is an insane claim, or one that does not apply to any living artist, but I fail to see why anyone would think it applies to me more than it does to anyone else.

Also, I fail to see why my work would suggest any motivation for making it other than the one stated at the top of this comment: that is, I enjoy looking at and making the kind of work that I produce.

I think I know why you make this inaccurate assumption, however. All artists and art-lovers, myself included, feel we are surrounded by a sea of mediocrity--we look around and we feel that the art that's popular during our lifetime is the complete opposite of our own aesthetic and that there's very little that's good.

Everyone feels this way.

Of course, we're correct, most art sucks or simply doesn't match our taste. But we're wrong if we assume it's because of a concerted effort by society to insult our aesthetic.

We're also wrong if we automatically assume that art that is abhorrent to us was made with intentions that are abhorrent to us.

It's a matter of taste if I like pizza and you like mashed potatoes, and we can agree to disagree. However, it is an insult to me as a human being if you suggest that the reason I make and eat a pizza is not because I am hungry, but rather because I want to be an icon.

Part of being an adult and an artist at the same time is learning that a person can have a different aesthetic than you and it doesn't mean that there's something wrong with them.

I look at paintings pretty closely, I look at color relationships and the way the paint moves across surfaces and I look at rendering. I try to do these things in new and different ways. I may succeed or fail, but this is where I'm at.

You probably don't care much about innovations in the field of rendering or paint-handling, you are probably interested in other things that art can do. I'm fine with that. I believe you can honestly and intelligently have an interest in different things than me without being compelled to question your motivations.

Why can't you do the same?

It's your prerogative to dislike my work, and I assume it's probably not some pose you made up--you really don't like it and think it says nothing interesting.

Why can't you assume that I make it for reasons that are just as honest?

 
At 3:46 PM, Zak Smith said...

oooh, typo, if i wanted "28k" a year, i'd 've been out of luck for a while, I mean to write "18k".

Anyway, I still need someone out there to explain why you just can't accept that saomeone can earnestly and honestly make things that don't match your taste.

 
At 8:45 PM, James Stanfield said...

Yeah, I don’t understand those Anonymous comments. I’ve thought about taking this post down more than once because I don’t like the Zak Smith bashing. However, Zak is doing a fine job of defending himself, and I now feel it would be unfair to him if I removed it. (Zak, all you have to do is say the word, and I’ll take down both posts.)

Why would Zak need to declare that he wants to be an icon? I really don’t understand. Zak has an image. I’m down with it. Cool.

 
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